company canceled and social debt?

September 20th, 2009

what happens to the debts of a company if it was removed from office by decision of the registry when I say I speak debt debt office (type urssaf, rsi etc. ..) thank you for your response IT IS ONE OF SARL

It will not do you any gifts!

It depends on the legal status of the company. In the case of an LLC: Where the company (the company) is the subject of a liquidation, creditors use company assets to repay these debts. Sometimes the entire debt can not be refunded. They disappear with the company. But the manager of the company can be held accountable for mistakes (payment of damages, fines, etc.). "Partner of SARL can not be sued on his personal assets for debts incurred by the company." "If a Associate Manager is the liability it incurs as a manager goes far beyond its contributions. "Extract of Article L.223-22 of the Code of Commerce:" The managers are responsible, individually or severally, by the case against the company or to third parties or violations of laws or regulations applicable to limited liability companies, or violations of statutes or of negligence in.223-22 Commercial Code: "The managers are responsible, individually or jointly, as appropriate, to society or to third parties or violations of laws or regulations applicable to limited liability companies, or violations of statutes, either WITH THEIR management mistakes. "" When insolvency proceedings (judicial reorganization or liquidation) is open in respect of a corporation, the court may decide to charge leaders of some of those debts if they have committed a fault management. "

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Debt''is not a priority''N. SARKOZY?

September 20th, 2009

they fuck us all On Soul during the campaign debt and now OSEF ^ ^ I've always heard that the DEBT TRAP is a dork …. once the ump gives me reason (nan Just kidding not for 1 time … it is at least the 50 th ….)

Considering all the gift tax to 1% of people like Bolloré normal. USA Bush did the same thing. These people make fun of straight debt. And they say it's the left that empty boxes. Like mafia!

see question here => http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index; _ylt = Ao2FyOhVgK4nkW0V266MVqJQKxV.? qid = 20070529055637AAe6JiK and even answer :))))) link below ….

the blurring of the debt will be a consequence of the introduction of the rest of the program. Also, I would note that the policy dininution the number of staff has already begun.

you voted for an emperor: 53%, and are preparing to cede the entire country, not a successor to the presidency of the UMP (he's the real leader), hyperactive head of government (everything goes through me otherwise. ..), appointments and censorship of media coverage of her jogging through the TV … and soon overwhelming majority in the Assembly, what will you? tears and handkerchiefs ….

The ECB has yet to get its interest rate is to say that the debt will increase by the pgm of Sarko and the rate of interest, I wish him good courage, because in my opinion it goes straight to the Bankruptcy

not the priority is to boost growth and employment.

priority was not that industries earn more money, and once the deep pockets they relocate to countries or you can pay people less expensive, while returning home to sell products to European prices ? (if companies do not relocate because of tax is to produce cheaper, thanks to wages, and still sell as dear to us)

yes the problem is that debt is the third state budget that cost him 40 billion euro per year is almost triple the Secu, the assedic and other benefits (you know what benefits "assisted") just as 40 billion euros is the revenue for income taxes (not counting the lower tax shield has 50 %…) is not when the debt will represent the equivalent Budget Nationnal Education and Research WORRY it will be too late …. When you look at all the countries that they drastically reduce their number of staff perceives that there is start by reducing the number of staff and then only they have the "gift" fiscau … but good for Nicolas Sarkozy is better to lower taxes immediately as it has pleased all those friends who are the only ones to profit!

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Debt management: do not replace an official two?

September 20th, 2009

This solution hammered and proposed among others by Nicolas Sarkozy to finally address this abysmal debt. Is this the right solution? Officials are they responsible for the debt? Is there not a risk to divide the nation? Are there other avenues?

We must reduce the operating budget of the state: otherwise, we can invest more. Nécessaireemnt This requires a Reduta the number of employees and / or freeze their wages for several years. Moreover, a certain Laurent Fabius had begun to implement this policy in 1983.

The problem is that in saying this, he does not get wet that much …. It is not clear in which sectors of the public, it will make cuts? In Education in the Admnistration in police, justice …..???? We do not know! "

Yes! Twice fewer teachers, nurses, police, policemen, judges, etc … And if at the same time, it gave a boost to trade in weapons like the USA? .. . it would be good for economic growth!

The national debt is largely due to its operation (salaires. ..) and not to investment. When a company wants to improve his situation, it attacks the fixed charges and including the payroll. This suggests that Sarkozy knowing that Canada, Sweden and other countries have done before us and those countries have growth rates much higher than ours.

the nation is already divided for us not to hurt your feelings

another track 1 / 3 and explain to staff that the office is before them, it is not to play cards, or to ask executives of photos of their relatives, but to work.

why when he was minister he has not reduced his salary and that of his friends, was not a good start when one wants to talk about the state debt! and that's a good solution , delete a post on both. and then after that we will complain when there will be no one to serve us! the slayer: Can you tell me that foresee the Robien law?? Of course we can employ once you have deleted the posts, is not it a bit easy! to view your comment, it's not just the Governement sarko. the president's salary is how much for example? and expenditures of elysees too? but it's true that it goes into the government and that increases the salaries of all members of 70% is nothing!

It depends what officials? For there will always be teachers, cops, doctors, nurses, prison guards, etc. … Reducing costs in the sweet "golden parachutes" that are granted the deputies, it would not have a good Departure?

If only officials were responsible for the debt, it is not. And how to ensure a quality public service and equal for all (ie. regardless of income), notammment health by removing these officials? M. Sarkozy has already set foot in a public hospital?? Or school PTA with 25 students per class in which half CE2 can not read?? Course must be modernized, but every body, every region, I would say each structure has its own peculiarities that must be taken into account anyway if you want to keep this quality of service that the world envies us. Otherwise delete as all public services and not replace any employee as an 'to do … This would be a much more logical to follow the trail of Mr Sarkozy.

It is especially impossible. It is already short of staff in hospitals, in justice, in education or in the national police. We can make savings on staff in local authorities and is probably just about everything . Well, it is still a number of posts, but surely not the 250,000 announced. The risk is that it continues as the present government to remove posts everywhere. That's how nurses are found to be I do not know how many hours per week and classes are overcrowded in schools. If you want to recover the money, we began by removing councils ! There are a number of elected unnecessary, because the skills of those boards are so reduced that it became possible to completely transfer to municipalities or regions. And in another vein, we tax the big companies making record profits and do not reinvest (eg Total, more. And in another vein, we tax the big companies making record profits and do not reinvest (eg Total, over 12 billion profit this year, half of which used to buy back its … own actions "outrageous).

This is an excellent idea. 70 students per class. 4 hours waiting for emergencies instead of 2 hours. Two times less cops on the street. A court two times slower. mail every other day (There is already the case) … Unless we replace all these people by private companies: two times more expensive.

Sure, it's hard for officials, it seems to detract from their role and their work. Officials are not responsible for the debt. But the proportion of state budget is spent on payments for civil servants is very important. As in many cases there is a risk of dividing the nation and we must explain. Of course we must look at other tracks, but they can be a complement.

If we could have enough imagination to know the incredible sums that politicians have managed to divert it could last guess is perhaps why the national debt is so great! Then we will have no suspicions about our staff, our rmistes our beneficiaries who all together should not cost the millionth of what we cost policies. Do not you ever wondered why they passed 30 years of their lives trying to get the tickets of Ministers, Deputies, President? The Power, the main power to release public funds for a particular tender … I sincerely believe, but I can be near plate …

At the time or the most profitable businesses relocate and lay off, consumption based entirely on French officials and the public services. Indeed deal with uncertainties about the future that can take credits for consumption or vacation of three days to turn tourism to Mount St. Michel in Paris or the Loire Valley .. The public is the final guarantor of the country. They ensure the continuity of public services (doctors, schools, power of order) They allow a mixing of the population because c is the only employer who s tried not to discriminate in the hiring. I am not official but I said that the deficit of the social security is a blessing indeed that s interresse a countries with rich people in poor health? Pharmaceutical companies are of excellent financial results must preserve public services for rural areas L UMP led France to the brink of bankruptcy 60 billion of debt in 2004 (24. I am not official but I said that the deficit of the social security is a blessing indeed that s interresse a country with rich people in poor health? Pharmaceutical companies are of excellent financial results must preserve public services for The rural areas UMP led France to the brink of bankruptcy 60 billion of debt in 2004 (24milliards in 2001) and today they tell us that we must make sacrifices … Hervé Gaymard to the air to thrive

Just a caveat: he has actually done this, but then, he has developed and clarified. it would be several years (already!), with a big party on bercy and this type of administration (note, I hear already irritated others and criticize Sarkozy). there is no question, for example, reduce teacher drastically, ditto for health: there is even talk to these 2 sectors to hire. in However, there are many positions in government (which we do not see) to be (and are sometimes already) unnecessary. you know there are thousands of people to taxes that are still there even though they were for the road tax (which no longer exists)? So maybe we can eliminate a large number of officials, even though we had the air of a national tragedy. It is true that the officials cost of any even money, and plus, I really think the retirement age is discussed. for the trades so that "risk", it suffices to establish an age. For the trades so that "risk", it suffices to establish a âgelimite for "forehead" and spend the rest in an office (it's useful too!). But this is not normal that requires private more pay for public pensions. PS: for info, the salary of a minister of the interior is 11 K €. I do not think it's whopping (in response to a note read above) in view of taf …

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company canceled and social debt?

September 20th, 2009

what happens to the debts of a company if it was removed from office by decision of the registry when I say I speak debt debt office (type urssaf, rsi etc. ..) thank you for your response IT IS ONE OF SARL

It will not do you any gifts!

It depends on the legal status of the company. In the case of an LLC: Where the company (the company) is the subject of a liquidation, creditors use company assets to repay these debts. Sometimes the entire debt can not be refunded. They disappear with the company. But the manager of the company can be held accountable for mistakes (payment of damages, fines, etc.). "Partner of SARL can not be sued on his personal assets for debts incurred by the company." "If a Associate Manager is the liability it incurs as a manager goes far beyond its contributions. "Extract of Article L.223-22 of the Code of Commerce:" The managers are responsible, individually or severally, by the case against the company or to third parties or violations of laws or regulations applicable to limited liability companies, or violations of statutes or of negligence in.223-22 Commercial Code: "The managers are responsible, individually or jointly, as appropriate, to society or to third parties or violations of laws or regulations applicable to limited liability companies, or violations of statutes, either WITH THEIR management mistakes. "" When insolvency proceedings (judicial reorganization or liquidation) is open in respect of a corporation, the court may decide to charge leaders of some of those debts if they have committed a fault management. "

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The debt of France is about 1200 billion Euros?

September 20th, 2009

In looking good on the INSEE site, I wanted to assign the last 30 years the debt each government. Result: 650m right for 15 years 550m left for 15 years. The worst Raffarin. Chifre almost identical in on allocations for the portion of debt that affects the SECU ie 40 billion (16 left 24 right) I remember the speech égaleemnt Giscard May 8, 1981. Go listen to election-politique.com: to die of laughter. We left the most conservative in Europe but right the stupidest in the world and the candidate of the right as thug as I've ever seen. It would kill father and mother keep in mind that the debt of France 60% of GDP was far worse in history for example in 1980 at the beginning of the reign of Louis 16

What is your question?

Well, I thought it was Chirac, the first offender to France in the minds of leftists? Now it has become Mr. Sarkozy? Is this a sign of its success next?

which may distort figures: views of the incumbent government uses the money before the government had mismanaged …

more ,…. is the decline of France to train there

The figures are nice but what to watch is the liability at the time the new president takes office.

the analysis is somewhat crude but broadly realistic

Funny distribution … you would not be left by any chance? left inflated the deficit by hiring a massive staff (you know who to 15h Friday bossent not already). Mitterand really helped us with his billions of expenditures for its major construction such as the Opera Bastille, the Louvre pyramid and the great library. And the protection of his daughter hidden for 20 years on our backs! Thank left Caviar. Me, I don 't repeat them. Ségolène we clear all heads of government of 1981! for help.

Is this the real figures .. amon opinion is even more!

In fact, do not look at strictly the years. He should see what measures are disastrous in the long term and who are actually responsible for the deficits. For example the catastrophe of 35 hours, which ended up with this gift Economic poisoned? Right! But who has put in place: left! And since then the government ends up with the right measures of crap, and because irreformable socialos-Trotskyites rush into the street … ben is still like that … And if Royal password, you will see the economic disaster that will follow.

MUST PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF REAL ECONOMISTS …. so … we must turn their carers … 5 years …. they should be ashamed …. no … they are fine and will represent … …. how to get to …?

worry, the fairy ségolène with her wand, will erase the debt miraculously ….

What can we do to help?

're on your figures right already since 1981 to govern 12 years from 86 to 88 92 to 97 of 02 at 07 when it was left 14 years when the deficit even know what site you can see that 81 the deficit was 20% of GDP in 92 is 40% in 2001 is 59.3% and 64% today when you look at the causes is mainly due to the increase depends on public and the cost burdens of working now to see those responsible for this policy now demands that created more tax, increase the payroll staff and helpers of all kinds

Never has France not cover its debt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How is this possible? Delusions of grandeur?

I have not checked your calculations but I assume they are correct. I assume that since 30 years all governments, whether left or right, have failed. Note that we already knew! And it's the same bullies who claim now to save France? All this is scary, really! Bayrou is the only one who has made this issue a central theme of his campaign. I would think and hope he will manage to contain and reduce this debt. Any other outcome would be disastrous for France!

basically you not question, you are displaying your ideas, waiting to read different answers! tried! No, I do not think that France has such a big debt! AND even if c is true, have you thought of tax revenue, taxes, etc. … it'll hold you for a corner, I'm on!

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Debt''is not a priority''N. SARKOZY?

September 20th, 2009

they fuck us all On Soul during the campaign debt and now OSEF ^ ^ I've always heard that the DEBT TRAP is a dork …. once the ump gives me reason (nan Just kidding not for 1 time … it is at least the 50 th ….)

Considering all the gift tax to 1% of people like Bolloré normal. USA Bush did the same thing. These people make fun of straight debt. And they say it's the left that empty boxes. Like mafia!

see question here => http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index; _ylt = Ao2FyOhVgK4nkW0V266MVqJQKxV.? qid = 20070529055637AAe6JiK and even answer :))))) link below ….

the blurring of the debt will be a consequence of the introduction of the rest of the program. Also, I would note that the policy dininution the number of staff has already begun.

you voted for an emperor: 53%, and are preparing to cede the entire country, not a successor to the presidency of the UMP (he's the real leader), hyperactive head of government (everything goes through me otherwise. ..), appointments and censorship of media coverage of her jogging through the TV … and soon overwhelming majority in the Assembly, what will you? tears and handkerchiefs ….

The ECB has yet to get its interest rate is to say that the debt will increase by the pgm of Sarko and the rate of interest, I wish him good courage, because in my opinion it goes straight to the Bankruptcy

not the priority is to boost growth and employment.

priority was not that industries earn more money, and once the deep pockets they relocate to countries or you can pay people less expensive, while returning home to sell products to European prices ? (if companies do not relocate because of tax is to produce cheaper, thanks to wages, and still sell as dear to us)

yes the problem is that debt is the third state budget that cost him 40 billion euro per year is almost triple the Secu, the assedic and other benefits (you know what benefits "assisted") just as 40 billion euros is the revenue for income taxes (not counting the lower tax shield has 50 %…) is not when the debt will represent the equivalent Budget Nationnal Education and Research WORRY it will be too late …. When you look at all the countries that they drastically reduce their number of staff perceives that there is start by reducing the number of staff and then only they have the "gift" fiscau … but good for Nicolas Sarkozy is better to lower taxes immediately as it has pleased all those friends who are the only ones to profit!

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Who is responsible for the debt?

September 20th, 2009

Everyone believes that the PS is responsible for the debt in emptying the coffers of the state but the reality is quite different. The Did You Know? Debt fell under Jospin and Raffarin has exploded / Villepin / Sarkozy historical source of debt from 1996 to 2006: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dette_publique_de_la_France another source that shows an explosion clear-cut in 1993 under the action of Balladur and Budget Minister Balladur source => site Senate: http://www.senat.fr/rap/r98-413/r98-4130.html # ToC3 So why does this one left that empty boxes when it corrects the errors of the right ? It is true that this has increased fortemetn in 1983 and 1984 but in 1986-1988 under Chirac and CO. I'm not saying that there is gauhce for anything I say jsute q'elle did better than others! "I put a new link Accessed http://www.syti.net/Images/DettePubliqueFrancaise.jpg

Finally truths, Thanks …

+ 33% between 2002 and 2006, can not do better?

All those who agreed to finance the borrowing costs of operation while the loan should be reserved for capital expenditures and research. Basically: all ministers who have agreed to grovel before the public service unions. Jospin has done well by having Fabius when he agreed to spend the famous "kitty" that never existed.

Uncle and elephants of the time!

I think we're all a bit responsible …

You forgot LOOOOOOL 1981-1996 ……. and debt under Jospin has not declined (in% yes but not in euros)

good view and from 81 you saw or you made the ostrich the ostrich I think

The debt was created in 30 years. Under the leadership of the right and the left.

We are all responsible

> and debt under Jospin has not declined (in% yes but> non-euro) You've taken the time to look at the link? amounts in euros However, it should also have the amounts in%, and since 1981. FYI, the last budget financial balance of the 5th Republic was signed by Raymond Barre in 1981. All budgets since 1981 without exception were in operating deficit.

Looooooooooooool source history begins in 1996? Nay: debt at the beginning of seven Mitterrand was 34 billion euros (equivalent constant). This amount was consecutive to oil shocks. This is being said the amount was ridiculous. Today she is 1 200 billion euros, when we speak of falling or an explosion or Jospin Raffarin, there is something explode … laughing. The only thing we can say right and left, cohabitation or not, it was nullissime in the management of France.

It should not be any simpler: do not forget that corporate political action yesterday and will have consequences today and tomorrow. Not necessarily responsible for the Governement to power during which the debt has increased. Rather analyze what were the measures that have generated debt or those who have not been taken. These same measures (or non-actions) which grows heavy weight year after year such as the increase Recipients of CMU, the 35h, the increasing weight of special pension regimes unreformed and so on … Do not be a vision as short as the propaganda that you are served

And the fact that budgets for 2002 have voted in 2001? And the fact that debt is represented by its share in GDP, not its actual value? (and thus is directly influenced by growth) is curious as can be told anything by figures showing as desired. Not true, the debt has never declined since the budget surplus was not under Jospin. This is shown in your not even on the table gives the values in euro. Bravo misinformation. You can also say "the right is responsible for the tsunami, because there was no under Jospin" if you want.

Keep a cool link to get an idea visually. Http://www.syti.net/Images/DettePubliqueFrancaise.jpg Otherwise, it is logical that those who want to cut taxes must find the money elsewhere, so right! It is also logical that those who want to increase the number of officials must find more money! So both sides bear some responsibility.

Repart see Wikippedia. Further down, there is a table showing that Giscard is left with a positive deficit. And then Mitterrand created the first hole. Then, 88-90, it settles. And 90 to 95 it off again thoroughly. They must be bad habits on the public deficit to Mitterand. Now, they'll all offer programs beyond our means.

It was not me Sir, is the other !!!!!!

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debt and campaign promises?

September 20th, 2009

France has 1,000 billion euros of debt how to reconcile the state reimbursement for this huge debt and promises all azimuth without losing its credibility?

Not 1000 but 1200 including 300 in 5 years of UMP. From 1997 to 2001, the Left has succeeded to the office by reducing from 59 to 56% of GDP debt. Since 2001, the UMP has increased from 56 to 64.5%.

VOILA, a good question! The PS and the UMP are irresponsible demagogues ….

The peoblème arises especially after when candidates are elected. Under various pressures, there is often slippage.

The debt problem is when we have trouble paying the interest. We're almost there and we must therefore respond to initially stop the accumulation of debt. THE PROJECT is of François Bayrou of 3 years.

You know that tomorrow is shaved free. And tomorrow is that you pay … so make the right choice … … it is advisable for your purse and can be your future … in France if you want to stay.

Their credibility will be won or lost in 5 years …. With a debt …. Good choice for your vote, I do not give you instructions as will do the others, this is not the issue: ) Good weekend

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Debt management: do not replace an official two?

September 20th, 2009

This solution hammered and proposed among others by Nicolas Sarkozy to finally address this abysmal debt. Is this the right solution? Officials are they responsible for the debt? Is there not a risk to divide the nation? Are there other avenues?

We must reduce the operating budget of the state: otherwise, we can invest more. Nécessaireemnt This requires a Reduta the number of employees and / or freeze their wages for several years. Moreover, a certain Laurent Fabius had begun to implement this policy in 1983.

The problem is that in saying this, he does not get wet that much …. It is not clear in which sectors of the public, it will make cuts? In Education in the Admnistration in police, justice …..???? We do not know! "

Yes! Twice fewer teachers, nurses, police, policemen, judges, etc … And if at the same time, it gave a boost to trade in weapons like the USA? .. . it would be good for economic growth!

The national debt is largely due to its operation (salaires. ..) and not to investment. When a company wants to improve his situation, it attacks the fixed charges and including the payroll. This suggests that Sarkozy knowing that Canada, Sweden and other countries have done before us and those countries have growth rates much higher than ours.

the nation is already divided for us not to hurt your feelings

another track 1 / 3 and explain to staff that the office is before them, it is not to play cards, or to ask executives of photos of their relatives, but to work.

why when he was minister he has not reduced his salary and that of his friends, was not a good start when one wants to talk about the state debt! and that's a good solution , delete a post on both. and then after that we will complain when there will be no one to serve us! the slayer: Can you tell me that foresee the Robien law?? Of course we can employ once you have deleted the posts, is not it a bit easy! to view your comment, it's not just the Governement sarko. the president's salary is how much for example? and expenditures of elysees too? but it's true that it goes into the government and that increases the salaries of all members of 70% is nothing!

It depends what officials? For there will always be teachers, cops, doctors, nurses, prison guards, etc. … Reducing costs in the sweet "golden parachutes" that are granted the deputies, it would not have a good Departure?

If only officials were responsible for the debt, it is not. And how to ensure a quality public service and equal for all (ie. regardless of income), notammment health by removing these officials? M. Sarkozy has already set foot in a public hospital?? Or school PTA with 25 students per class in which half CE2 can not read?? Course must be modernized, but every body, every region, I would say each structure has its own peculiarities that must be taken into account anyway if you want to keep this quality of service that the world envies us. Otherwise delete as all public services and not replace any employee as an 'to do … This would be a much more logical to follow the trail of Mr Sarkozy.

It is especially impossible. It is already short of staff in hospitals, in justice, in education or in the national police. We can make savings on staff in local authorities and is probably just about everything . Well, it is still a number of posts, but surely not the 250,000 announced. The risk is that it continues as the present government to remove posts everywhere. That's how nurses are found to be I do not know how many hours per week and classes are overcrowded in schools. If you want to recover the money, we began by removing councils ! There are a number of elected unnecessary, because the skills of those boards are so reduced that it became possible to completely transfer to municipalities or regions. And in another vein, we tax the big companies making record profits and do not reinvest (eg Total, more. And in another vein, we tax the big companies making record profits and do not reinvest (eg Total, over 12 billion profit this year, half of which used to buy back its … own actions "outrageous).

This is an excellent idea. 70 students per class. 4 hours waiting for emergencies instead of 2 hours. Two times less cops on the street. A court two times slower. mail every other day (There is already the case) … Unless we replace all these people by private companies: two times more expensive.

Sure, it's hard for officials, it seems to detract from their role and their work. Officials are not responsible for the debt. But the proportion of state budget is spent on payments for civil servants is very important. As in many cases there is a risk of dividing the nation and we must explain. Of course we must look at other tracks, but they can be a complement.

If we could have enough imagination to know the incredible sums that politicians have managed to divert it could last guess is perhaps why the national debt is so great! Then we will have no suspicions about our staff, our rmistes our beneficiaries who all together should not cost the millionth of what we cost policies. Do not you ever wondered why they passed 30 years of their lives trying to get the tickets of Ministers, Deputies, President? The Power, the main power to release public funds for a particular tender … I sincerely believe, but I can be near plate …

At the time or the most profitable businesses relocate and lay off, consumption based entirely on French officials and the public services. Indeed deal with uncertainties about the future that can take credits for consumption or vacation of three days to turn tourism to Mount St. Michel in Paris or the Loire Valley .. The public is the final guarantor of the country. They ensure the continuity of public services (doctors, schools, power of order) They allow a mixing of the population because c is the only employer who s tried not to discriminate in the hiring. I am not official but I said that the deficit of the social security is a blessing indeed that s interresse a countries with rich people in poor health? Pharmaceutical companies are of excellent financial results must preserve public services for rural areas L UMP led France to the brink of bankruptcy 60 billion of debt in 2004 (24. I am not official but I said that the deficit of the social security is a blessing indeed that s interresse a country with rich people in poor health? Pharmaceutical companies are of excellent financial results must preserve public services for The rural areas UMP led France to the brink of bankruptcy 60 billion of debt in 2004 (24milliards in 2001) and today they tell us that we must make sacrifices … Hervé Gaymard to the air to thrive

Just a caveat: he has actually done this, but then, he has developed and clarified. it would be several years (already!), with a big party on bercy and this type of administration (note, I hear already irritated others and criticize Sarkozy). there is no question, for example, reduce teacher drastically, ditto for health: there is even talk to these 2 sectors to hire. in However, there are many positions in government (which we do not see) to be (and are sometimes already) unnecessary. you know there are thousands of people to taxes that are still there even though they were for the road tax (which no longer exists)? So maybe we can eliminate a large number of officials, even though we had the air of a national tragedy. It is true that the officials cost of any even money, and plus, I really think the retirement age is discussed. for the trades so that "risk", it suffices to establish an age. For the trades so that "risk", it suffices to establish a âgelimite for "forehead" and spend the rest in an office (it's useful too!). But this is not normal that requires private more pay for public pensions. PS: for info, the salary of a minister of the interior is 11 K €. I do not think it's whopping (in response to a note read above) in view of taf …

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The brainwashing of debt?

September 20th, 2009

The facts: "If the French debt exceeds the limit set by the European stability pact (60% of GDP), it is far from being the highest. According to Eurostat, the average debt in the area Euro was 70.8% of GDP in 2005. Italy is indebted to the tune of 106.6%, Belgium 93.2% and Germany 67.9%. Japan has a debt of 129% GDP. Proportionally, the debt of the United States is equivalent to that of France. They are not bankrupt either. "Here, Germany has a debt greater than that of France. And Japan! Therefore, if one has in mind is that the UMP and she alone has pushed the debt above 60% of GDP (it was 56% in 2001 against 59% in 1997) and despite all this debt is reasonable, we understand that we handle. Why?

I also believe that newspapers have been instructed to pass Bayrou. The whole question is how is this instruction: - Great bosses? - Pressure Groups? - Ministry of Interior? Bayrou cover of L ' Express Point and Le Nouvel Observateur that week, while still at 21% of voting intentions, less than Sarkozy and Royal, it smells of media manipulation, full nose.

"We understand that we handle" …. No, you think? As Douste …. Scat …. OF FRESH AIR quick! Sarkozy has called us into debt by cons … To boost consumer spending … Anyway, what is true for us, does not work in this direction! Logic economic DOITE …. It will work bankers.. The right is responsible for the increase in debt and she uses this to say: "Tighten your belt" that's all..

hum sooner or later have to pay and is not healthy to take a budget each example of my city! indebted indebted and unable to borrow for capital spending is what you want for France??

Imagine (thus Sego) and Seble (So Sarko) agree, long live the UMPS and low Bayrou: genial your program guys … except here you have children? because with the slate that you are going to leave you their interest to learn foreign languages …

But yes continue to slam the devonte repay money that future generations: that is the ambition of the PS

course for your government and exclusivity is the name of the future secretary of state budget "of royal http://www.imf.org/external/fra/index.asp

This is to justify the promises and limitations of budgets.

To continue to borrow from the great silversmiths close to the UMP and MEDEF.

Because Bayrou and the complacent media manipulate public opinion into believing that the debt of states is comparable to that household. Especially Bayrou prepares us for an austerity plan Barred type 70s ..

Request that the Canadian who saw their country go bankrupt in the 90s! Debt of Japan and Germany is based on investment which is not true of France. And Japan has not a state apparatus identical to that of France, but above all make the growth as we do! It is the debt to ensure the lifestyle of the unacceptable condition Another paper Anti Bayrou

We can not stop talking about debt in order to condition the people to resign themselves to accept the privatization of public enterprises, sale of assets held by the State, the undermining of social provision, the simplification "Labor Code, the" reform "of pensions, longer reimbursed drugs etc. …

any good manager knows that debt is by nature necessarily somewhat "abnormal" and therefore can tolerate it, but certainly use it as a big credit to variable geometry that can grow and grow without end, but the Top AC would still like Bayrou said to stabilize, which seems logical

You can not deny that the debt exists and it is important to reduce it. You can not say that it does not matter because there are worse than us. You can not hide that finally it is our children and grandchildren who will pay because we do not want to sacrifice a small part of our advantages. Personally, I do not know when my time come to let my kids debts deprive them of a decent life. This is exactly what we are doing at the country level.

It is not because others are worse than they should do likewise. 60% of our taxes goes to pay interest on loans from state banks. … So if they wiped all that debt would decrease the tax of …

I do not know who is manipulating whom. I do not give a shit country with a debt even more important than France. Especially when that hidden level GDP and foreign trade, they are more efficient. I look at those who argue and have a Budget surplus as Spain, where they laughed there until recently. And that all income taxes only serve to repay the interests of debt, ça me fout the balls.

If you come to deny the importance of this issue for you and your child can do anything for you! It's called suicide! However, the PS can understand this theory of diversion when we heard yesterday, the solution advocated by Royal … … the economic growth! No, no, I swear, she dared say in front of 4.5 million French! And why not candle in Notre Dame de la Garde, even to say bullshit!?

The problem is that all interest debt represents all taxes on income, this is uncomfortable but not unbearable especially for those who pay most of this debt is structural, we can conceive of s' debt for us to win something, eg if you buy your home is much better than paying rent sunk so even if the debt that you contract with your mortgage is huge and could be 3 to 400% of your annual income your GDP in short, for you it actually represents only a small debt because you vrees heritage …. This is not the same thing with a structural debt that is wasted not create wealth if the debt has increased under the ump thought with the small gifts of poisoned Ps 35 hours funded by the surplus of secu (it boggles) and cherry on the cake CMU, funded by nothing

The debt does not appear to be composed mainly of investment as in other countries. It is used to pay operating costs in most old …. It is despairing to see that we ask our children and grandchildren to pay.

Ridiculous. I do not know or did you get these figures. But admit that they are fair. In Europe there's worse than we … So go ahead! Let us explode the debt! Japan is experiencing a serious crisis of 15years! I think it is logical that its debt is high. Japan and Germany export more than we do. Their economic situation is much better than ours. They have no evil eliminate their debt, even if it is higher than ours. They made the necessary reforms, reforms that Royal still refuses to do. Even the U.S. topo: debt could very well be erased by two or three simple steps. As for the UMP, which would increase the debt: obviously, if the Socialists take advantage of a temporary boost to the global economy to initiate spending everything goes, when the economy turns around, the legislature must pay the following slate. The debt has exploded since the socialist social programs have not been funding their legislature, but the next. To this you add a serious turnaround. To this you add a serious reversal deconjoncture world, and you increase your debt mechanism. Since the right has managed to reduce it somewhat. So what do you suggest? Let the slate leave our children? That the repayment of debt is the 1st budget, not the 2nd? As you look good in Canada? And elsewhere?

If the debt is large and becomes hard to bear by the finances of the French state, and therefore by taxpayers. Indeed, there you can talk that the government debt. But some quasi-state, whose debt in any case be borne by the state failure are also heavily indebted: Various health insurance, old-style businesses Reseau Ferre de France, SNCF, and even partly EDF. In addition there are the debts of local governments increasingly indebted and recorded separately. Finally it should be noted that the structure of the state budget is already blocked by the recurrent staff salaries style + repayments of debt + commitments, brief the French state has virtually no flexibility and very low investment capacity. What is not good management. For example, the state has difficulty in financing highways where the concessions to private. The increase in debt is opposed to the desire to alleviate the tax burden very heavy. The increase in debt is opposed to the desire to alleviate the tax burden very heavy inFrance (= debt vicious spiral). We can not consider only the debt, he must see the context: debt + levies + tab embolism of the welfare state / mammoth + + sluggish growth by blocking the Euro => it is advantageous to reduce debt, is virtually the only virtuous way we have to find a little leeway. Finally The debt snowball is a punishment that leaves future generations, do we want it? No, no! Moreover comparisons with other countries, mostly show that living on credit with the world's resources are exhausted (there is more to conquer the New World-by killings, or Africa blank to retrieve resources not expensive). Remember when creditors want the U.S. to recover their sub => Global financial crash insured. The debt is like pollution, do not underestimate it and believe that can continue to play with. Just one example: the burden of debt (interest) represents about 5 TGV-Est! Humm hummm!

That this is a big financial … France is one of the few countries or the debt used to finance the operation and not investment, unlike Germany, Japan etc … In addition, this was outweighed by the plank and tickets to the devaluation, which is now finished with l4euro. You're right to say it, but to decrease because this debt is undervalued by not taking into account the "off balance" (special diets, holes cachhés Here and there, RFF, etc. …) And you talk about manipulation??

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